July 9, 2020

4×4 Soft Shackles vs Bow (Steel) Shackles

Soft shackles are becoming more and more popular on the 4×4/overlanding scene. More companies are making soft shackles then ever before, gator jaw, factor 55, roadsafe, bubba rope, to name a few.
But are soft shackles better for 4wd recoveries the then good ole steel bow shackle that has been around since the birth of 4wds and people getting bogged.

In this video we talk about the pros and cons of both!

Unsealed 4×4 Destruction Shackle test

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Not all load factors were consider in this video for the sake of simplicity, i.e. friction, load angle factor angles on the shackles etc. The information should be used only as a guide, refer to your manufacturers manuals for the recovery gear you have.

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July 9, 2020 at 2:14 am

Chris Moore

just use your hitch pin through the eye of the strap and forget shackles
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July 9, 2020 at 2:14 am

Hayden mackay

Speaking about "first to fail" I would rather have a 14 tonne shackle break. Than the snatch strap which is much more expensive. Same with drive line. I want my weak point to be the cheapest to replace part as a fuse
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July 9, 2020 at 2:14 am

Michael S

Great video. This guy has taught me so much
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July 9, 2020 at 2:14 am

Kent Henson

Great explations, thank you!
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July 9, 2020 at 2:14 am

Jason Newlands

Great advice
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July 9, 2020 at 2:14 am

Diesel Delivery

8:05 better to have the shackle the other way, unless the pin wouldn't fit through your recovery point.
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July 9, 2020 at 2:14 am

Joseph Catmull

Really excellent presentation.
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July 9, 2020 at 2:14 am

Jeff Prevett

all that talking and you NEVER pulled anything omg
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July 9, 2020 at 2:14 am

Lawrence Winter

One of those guys who's resting face is a smile.
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July 9, 2020 at 2:14 am

Jefferson Norton

"if it doesn't hurt you, it might kill you" 😂
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July 9, 2020 at 2:14 am

4x4Scout

I give that soft shackle on the snatch block a 4 or 5 ton rating because of the sharp edges. It has been proven that sharp edges decrease the strength of the soft shackle quite profoundly.
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July 9, 2020 at 2:14 am

Thành nguyễn Đức

why mazda truck?
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July 9, 2020 at 2:14 am

Lambert Saldi

Awesome Review thank you
THE VERMONTER
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July 9, 2020 at 2:14 am

Alex Povolotski

Good review. Thank you.
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July 9, 2020 at 2:14 am

Blake Brewer

I love how he smiles when he's talking about people dying, Idk why it's funny, just is. Great video though
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July 9, 2020 at 2:14 am

PBS #007

good presentation, my question is what is the software you use on the phone to find the angles ??.
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July 9, 2020 at 2:14 am

Alpha Bet

This was a great refresher. Thank you for giving up your time to make this.
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July 9, 2020 at 2:14 am

Michael Fletcher

I want your hat. Well not your hat but one just like it.
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July 9, 2020 at 2:14 am

Damian LoVecchio

This is an EXCELLENT video! I'm researching a winch purchase and recovery gear, and I appreciate your approach and explanation. Thank you for such an informative and substantial covering of this topic!
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July 9, 2020 at 2:14 am

Maintenance Barn

I completely understand that a soft shackle is safer but how in the heck does a soft shackle cost twice as much as a steel shackle. That is business robbing people blind, got $0.16 in making a product and they sell it for $50. For that reason I still run steal shackles.
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July 9, 2020 at 2:14 am

Timothy Bond

I didn't see if you mentioned it – sorry if you did – but when tightening a shackle you should snug up the pin and then release it by say a quarter turn so that it doesn't bind up under load.
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July 9, 2020 at 2:14 am

Nathan Chan

There are some key critical errors here. Firstly, because there is a factor of safety DO NOT use this factor. Secondly when your calculating angles of straps, that DOES NOT increase your straps strength. If you have two 6t loads pulling on either arm of your strap you will still have 12t of force in the middle of the strap (Yes force is not calculated in kg rather in N, I know). Those angle load factors are used to calculate the increase in strap strength you need to lift a certain load, NOT the increased strength of a strap. For example for a load with arm angles at 60-90 degrees, your strap needs to be at minimum rated to 1.41 times the mass of your load to safely lift it. Same goes for a 2:1 pull, your winch ropes breaking strain doesn't go up, it just means the system is able to pull more weight. You should never assume because things have factors of safety or are rated to certain limits you should use them to their limits. They don't account for wear and tear or a multitude of external factors. Typically a minimum 20% overhead should be used.
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July 9, 2020 at 2:14 am

Peter

Excellent
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July 9, 2020 at 2:14 am

The Bardock

Where are your snatch blockd from? Im always weird about what im getting from amazon
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July 9, 2020 at 2:14 am

Craig Borrenpohl

Masterclass cheers mate.
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July 9, 2020 at 2:14 am

l337pwnage

11:30 Having something in there also makes the connection much stronger. Without that, it's basically a square knot, which, in ropes, can cut the strength as much as 50%, maybe straps are more resilient, I can't say. Also, you can use that brush with just a single pass through and there is no chance of permanent binding or strength reduction.
Those rope "shackles' seem neat. I might have to try making one.
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July 9, 2020 at 2:14 am

jim yeats

9:45
Matts Offroad Towing and Recvery: Yeah I'm gonna do that.
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July 9, 2020 at 2:14 am

Mark G

That soft shackle can kill. If it is flying through the air fast enough, it can fracture a skull. Learn some physics. Watch how fast a strap end moves when it breaks.
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July 9, 2020 at 2:14 am

J J

12:10. Instructions unclear. Should I put the hard shackle in there to create space?
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July 9, 2020 at 2:14 am

Dan Emmerich

What type of rope should be used if you want to use a rope? Or should it always be Straps?
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July 9, 2020 at 2:14 am

Sunyata

Being new to recovery, this was fantastic information and you made it very easy to understand. Thank you!
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July 9, 2020 at 2:14 am

Ken Urban

Wow, that was a very informative video! Thanks so much for making it so easy to understand.
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July 9, 2020 at 2:14 am

Pinz314

Very nice video, the only thing i miss is that you always want a minimum safetyfactor of 2, max load to MBS. So on the pully situation where the winch can do 11t the (soft)shackle, pully and strap must have a MBS of 22t or more to compensate for wear.
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July 9, 2020 at 2:14 am

oh wow

Full of useful information. Very well presented. As a bonus he always smiles while he talks! Fantastic mate!
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July 9, 2020 at 2:14 am

Kirk Mills

Excellent, so well done!!!
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July 9, 2020 at 2:14 am

James Matthews

Outstanding video! I am an abseiler/rigger and sailor. I use soft shackles on my boat all the time and found this chat very interesting and informative. 10/10!
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July 9, 2020 at 2:14 am

Vic B

Awesome video.
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July 9, 2020 at 2:14 am

James Seaman Jr

I went in thinking your video would be the same old same old. Damn! Was I wrong, you covered the why and why not. Along with the when and when to. Totally on the mark. All the positive feedback is well deserved. Keep them coming.
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July 9, 2020 at 2:14 am

Phil Nazarenus

This is such a good video i keep coming back to!
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July 9, 2020 at 2:14 am

Ravin Mudiyanselage

Very informational and very well articulated
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July 9, 2020 at 2:14 am

Christophe DeHerluin

Great to see a Mazda 4WD. Variety is everything, enjoy!
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July 9, 2020 at 2:14 am

Fahad Alwheibi

Very useful information, thanks a lot
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July 9, 2020 at 2:14 am

dirtyshirtinfo

Very well done. Great vid.
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